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« on: January 22, 2012, 06:37:12 PM »
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/jack_mccallum/01/21/joe.paterno/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a2

Well almost a Bear Bryant 2.0 in the sense of passing soon after coaching his last game.

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Re: JoePa
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2012, 10:07:45 PM »
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Re: JoePa
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2012, 12:02:56 AM »
A sad day indeed. We all make mistakes, JoePa was no different. He is still a CFB icon. RIP

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Re: JoePa
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 01:22:28 AM »
The man is a coaching icon who had a profound effect on the lives of thousands!  He will be sorely missed.

However, it's just a reality in life that one aww shit is worth a thousand 'atta boys!  No matter what good he accomplished, his legacy is severely tarnished.  You will never be able to convince me that Samdusky wasn't forced into retirement in '99 or that the man who made it business to rule State College, PA like a feudal lord didn't make the decision to do that.  There is no way to sugar coat the fact that he harbored, sheltered and aided a heinous criminal all in the self interest of protecting the institution he created.  In the end, he was no different than the coaches he famously said he didn't want to leave the sport in the hands do... Barry Switzer and Jackie Sherrill.  They all served their own interests however they could and covered their tracks wherever they had to.  Joe Paternoster was a fantastic coach and excellent man, but lets tap the brakes on the holier than thou eulogies.

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Re: JoePa
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2012, 08:07:31 PM »
As a coach, sad day.

As a person, meh, but that was a lot to have happen in just a few months. Well, not necessarily happen, but come to fruition I suppose.

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Re: JoePa
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2012, 12:34:09 AM »
Someone asked on a local radio station, what would Paterno have done if the witness (Mc Grady?) had come upstairs and said "coach, I just saw Sandusky in the shower molesting one of your grand children".   Would Paterno have continued to employ Sandusky for several  more years then?  Would he have gone to the Police?   If he would have reacted differently, then why didn't this victim deserve the same attention?
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Re: JoePa
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2012, 08:14:14 PM »
Mike McQueary.
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Re: JoePa
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2012, 12:57:47 AM »
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/greenstein/ct-spt-0125-greenstein-joe-paterno--20120125,0,1958692.column

Some funny things in Teddy Greenstein's article about JoePa acting his age on teleconferences to mixing up B1G coaches

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Re: JoePa
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2012, 05:12:21 PM »
They had a big debate on local radio yesterday about how Penn State is naming the football stadium after Paterno and whether that's the right move or not.  I'm on the side that says it's an awful move that sends the exact opposite message that needs to be sent.  All the Penn Staters calling in kept saying it's meant to honor him for building the university into what it is today, but if that's the case why not name one of the hundreds of buildings on campus after him?  There are a million things on that campus that can be named in his honor, but by picking the one building that the rest of the world sees, they're sending the message that the most important thing to Penn Staters is his contribution to football.  They're saying that his 409 wins in football is more important than anything else.  Is that really want they want to convey to the rest of the world?

Also, here's the elephant in the middle of the room with JoePa's involvement in the case.  Everybody is thinking it, but nobody wants to ask this question...  what would've happened to Penn State football if this story broke in 2002 when the incident happened?  Or in 1998 when the first investigation happened?  1998, and to a slightly lesser degree 2002, was pretty early in the internet age and the modern mega-media had not yet evolved into what it is today.  This scandal is horrible enough as it is, but can you imagine the impact on a team (particularly a top 10 team) if they're ACTIVE defensive coordinator is being investigated for molesting a child?  IF that happened today, there's no way this story doesn't get leaked to the media.  So here's that big question... 13 years is a full 25% of Paterno's tenure that includes 409 wins, how many of those are DIRECTLY ATTRIBUTED to this coverup?  If Penn State football is in shambles now (which we all agree it is), would it have been this way in 2002 or 1998?  So every week, 100K Penn Staters will walk into a stadium named for a man who won your 409 games, approximately 100 of which were won as a direct result of sweeping horrible crimes under the carpet.   We've talked a lot about JoePa's legacy, well IMO history needs to acknowledge that up to 25% of that legacy was achieved under suspect circumstances.