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Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« on: November 28, 2011, 06:54:08 PM »
Well UCLA announced that after the CCG they will be looking for a new coach, Arizona State said they will be looking for a new coach after their bowl game. Washington State apparantly will drop the hammer on their coach soon.

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2011, 01:10:44 AM »
I've said for years that UCLA is the place that Mike Leach should lobby hard for!  Arizona State sorta fits the same mold, but UCLA is a place where he wont' be scrutinized like a lot of places will.  That scrutiny is reserved for the basketball program at UCLA, so they'd let him run things his way.  Much like Tech, it's right in the middle of a great recruiting base but is not the big dog in the market, so he'd have access to the recruits he'd need.

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2011, 02:07:22 AM »
Of the Pac12 openings I think UCLA is the gig that has the most potential...but I hear the facilities for football need MAJOR upgrades

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2011, 03:51:13 AM »
"Potential" would be a good word for it, because there's not much there now.  Word is that UCLA just does not invest in their football program.  Poor facilities and fan indifference toward football make it a much less desirable job than it could be.  Their brand name is way stronger than their actual football product.

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2011, 04:55:15 AM »
Typical basketball school, they are redoing Pauley Pavillion and sure the Rose Bowl is getting a facelift but thats more for the bowl game than UCLA football. I doubt they have a nice offcampus football facility.

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2011, 09:47:00 PM »
http://tracking.si.com/2011/11/30/report-mike-leach-agrees-to-become-next-washington-state-university-head-coach/?sct=hp_t2_a8&eref=sihp

Hide the fat little girlfriends of the Paluz a Pirate is coming on board ja-har! The Cougs have the talent to make a bowl next season even if this hire hadn't happened. Poor KU football.

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2011, 10:02:42 PM »
Ahhh, subject line made me think they were swapping lives or something.




for the record(and so you all get my joke), it's merry(as in happy)-go-round

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2011, 10:43:37 PM »
Great hire by the Cougs!

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2011, 10:46:41 PM »
Good for Leach, I'm glad to see him get another chance.  Leach isn't a fit for a school that's a member of the establishment, he's kind of an anti-establishment guy, so he needs to be at a place like that.  Tech is one, so is Wazoo.  The fans will love him, casual fans will love watching his games, opposing fans will take notice.  It's a great hire for Wazoo.  You have to be willing to take the highs and lows with Leach, his teams will leave Coug fans slapping their foreheads from time to time, but it will most definitely be a fun ride with him in charge.

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2011, 10:50:11 PM »
Anybody else notice the coincidence, btw?  Leach goes from Lubbock, Texas... the most secluded college outpost in D1 football, to Pullman, Washington... maybe the second most secluded locale.  What's a man gotta do to move up to the big city?

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2011, 11:38:23 PM »
Ahhh, subject line made me think they were swapping lives or something.

for the record(and so you all get my joke), it's merry(as in happy)-go-round

Yeah, thats on me and nothing like a spelling error to get people to notice.

Anybody else notice the coincidence, btw?  Leach goes from Lubbock, Texas... the most secluded college outpost in D1 football, to Pullman, Washington... maybe the second most secluded locale.  What's a man gotta do to move up to the big city?

That was pointed out today on 1620 here in Omaha on the 2-6 show that it isnt a coincedence that he went to Wazzu out of the lights of a biggere school. Saw that Ole Miss fans wanted him also.

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2011, 12:36:40 AM »
http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/30767/leach-to-wsu-moos-shoots-he-scores

Here is Pac12 blogger Ted Miller's thoughts on this hire

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2011, 01:00:58 AM »
Ahhh, subject line made me think they were swapping lives or something.

for the record(and so you all get my joke), it's merry(as in happy)-go-round

Yeah, thats on me and nothing like a spelling error to get people to notice.

Anybody else notice the coincidence, btw?  Leach goes from Lubbock, Texas... the most secluded college outpost in D1 football, to Pullman, Washington... maybe the second most secluded locale.  What's a man gotta do to move up to the big city?

That was pointed out today on 1620 here in Omaha on the 2-6 show that it isnt a coincedence that he went to Wazzu out of the lights of a biggere school. Saw that Ole Miss fans wanted him also.
Ha, I said lives. I meant wives.

My post= FAIL  ;D

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2011, 06:26:13 PM »

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2011, 07:06:27 PM »
Moves by division -

PacNorth -
Washington State (Mike Leach)

PacSouth -
Arizona (RichRod)
Arizona State (Todd Graham)
UCLA (Jim L. Mora)

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2011, 10:01:31 PM »
The biggest hire of that bunch, Mike Leach. The most questionable, Todd Graham.

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2011, 10:49:50 PM »
Especially since he's on job four since 2006 (1yr Rice, 4yrs Tulsa and 1yr Pitt) but I also saw that Arizona St asked for permission and declined which he then resigned and took the Sun Devils gig.

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2011, 12:03:27 AM »
I get WHY Pederson did what he did, but you have to say to yourself that Pederson is getting a rep of being one of the worst ADs ever.

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2011, 12:20:45 AM »
Well he got himself fired at Nebraska for a hiring, hired a guy at Pitt who went to jail then followed up with Todd Graham.

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
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« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2011, 10:08:13 PM »
Why anyone would trust Graham is beyond me. He's a viper in the grass.

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2012, 07:11:37 PM »
Trust me on this, the mass firing of Pac-12 coaches is not over.

Cal's Tedford is on the hottest seat in the conference for the upcoming 2012 season.  The reason?  $321 million as spent on the Memorial Stadium improvements.

Riley's seat is almost as hot as Tedford but the natives of Corvallis are getting restless and the Pac-12 $$$ will make his buyout manageable.

Those two coaches will very likely coach thier last season this coming season.

Looking ahead, many Ute fans have disagreed with me but I don't think Utah's head coach is Pac material and the Utes have a very pivotal season coming up.  After the 2012 season, they lose Cal and WSU from the schedule and add Stanford & Oregon so if Utah has another 7-5 season, the grumbling will start in Salt Lake City.

As for Coach Embree for the Buffs, given that CU has an easy schedule for 2012 and 2013, the expectation to win could come sooner than expected.  He has already said that a bowl game is the goal for this season and I think that is doable but difficult given that CU has to replace their starting QB, RB, TE, FB, and one WR who caught fire in the second half of the season plus the DL is thin at this point.  Given the fact that Embree's earnings isn't quite that high after some coaches got pay raises to go along with the new Pac-12 money and new coaches getting big pay raises (Leach for WSU for instance), Embree's buyout doesn't seem that bad after all.

Anyone recall how many heads rolled after the Big 12 was formed?  I'm seeing the same thing in the Pac-12 already.

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Re: Pac12 Coaching Marry-Go-Round
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2012, 08:34:15 PM »
Tedhead will probably be on the hotseat but the university needs to give him money for assistants. You can't just blame losing on him when he best assistants are leaving because they can't be paid properly.

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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2012, 09:12:05 PM »
Tedhead will probably be on the hotseat but the university needs to give him money for assistants. You can't just blame losing on him when he best assistants are leaving because they can't be paid properly.

Cal is having $$$ problems and until the school gets paid big on June 30, 2013, they will struggle in that department.  It's sad given how well Tedford has recruited in recent years which could be due to that coach who left for UW and I'm not talking about the former CU OC under Hawkins who fled to Seattle.

You could view this as rats fleeing a sinking ship in Berkely.