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Re: Is this the end for JoePa?
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2011, 03:49:34 AM »
Who would ever think you would hear those words 1 week ago

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Re: Is this the end for JoePa?
« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2011, 04:16:50 AM »
The senile fool could have resigned this morning making his firing unnecessary, instead of announcing his retirement at the end of the season.

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Re: Is this the end for JoePa?
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2011, 04:44:19 AM »
The senile fool could have resigned this morning making his firing unnecessary, instead of announcing his retirement at the end of the season.
You don't "coach" that long being modest.

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Re: Is this the end for JoePa?
« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2011, 06:35:42 AM »
His ego could of prevented alot.

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Re: Is this the end for JoePa?
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2011, 03:39:11 PM »
He put his program, and his self-preservation before justice and humanity.  It was the only way.  There was no other possible step for the trustees to take, Paterno had to be held accountable.  Putting the program first and foremost is what created this mess, so for the first time somebody in charge put it in the proper perspective.

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Re: Is this the end for JoePa?
« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2011, 05:08:07 PM »
Wow! I can't believe how bad this has gotten.... and every day it seems to get worse. I'm sick.

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Re: Is this the end for JoePa?
« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2011, 05:43:07 PM »
Now there are new rumors coming out that Sandusky was pimping out young boys to rich donors. Just keeps getting worse.

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Re: Is this the end for JoePa?
« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2011, 05:47:52 PM »
http://outkickthecoverage.com/espns-penn-state-coverage-fails-miserably.php

I was out last night and got home after most of this took place. The odd part was the flipping to the replay of the BOT on SC that they without warning got to the David Stern and Billy Hunter's press conference.

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Re: Is this the end for JoePa?
« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2011, 06:19:14 PM »
I just read the grand jury report and sickening. McCuary CANNOT be allowed to coach this weekend.

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Re: Is this the end for JoePa?
« Reply #35 on: November 10, 2011, 08:45:00 PM »
Here is Gregg Doyel who has been in State College all week long.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/16064518/mcqueary-to-coach-saturday-reasoning-difficult-to-comprehend

Then a Dennis Dodd about how the B1G and other schools need to take back there departments (Iowa, Michigan and Ohio State have had NCAA incidents the last 12 months)

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/16056344/now-is-the-time-schools-must-take-back-their-athletic-departments

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Re: Is this the end for JoePa?
« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2011, 01:40:19 AM »

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Re: Is this the end for JoePa?
« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2011, 04:33:54 AM »
NCAA death penalty?  Absolutely.  And not just for football either.  Tell the Student Athletes that there will be no athletic department for the next 5 years at Penn State.  Board it up and put a lock on the door.  Give the Students back their year of eligibility, and pay any scholarships to other institutions so they can attend there instead.  They have until next fall to figure out where they will play/study.  Athletics at Penn State should be non-existent for a while.

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Re: Is this the end for JoePa?
« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2011, 05:22:10 AM »
Someone emailed that thought into the local 2-6 show today (the good one on 1620 not the awful one on 590 my opinon ha) in Omaha. Here is something else that was tossed out today, Penn State in 3-4 years maybe getting booted out of the B1G if the university's insurance doesn't cover some of these claims it heavily send the university into bankrupcy.

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Re: Is this the end for JoePa?
« Reply #39 on: November 11, 2011, 05:13:23 PM »
I doubt it sends the university into bankruptcy, but it certainly sets them back a decade or so.  These universities have monetary resources we cannot even imagine, so they can cover the financial penalties.

The real damage is to their reputation and credibility.  This stigma is going to be there for a long time, they have a long road ahead to completely rebuild their image and culture.  I described a little bit of this in an earlier post, but their new administration is going to have to embrace the concept of transparency and openness because they've lost the trust of the public, they can't have that culture of running a tight ship, "trust us, we're doing it the right way" they've had for the last 6 decades.  Administrators at just about every level are going to have to be replaced, basically anybody who's been there more than a few years, and replaced by somebody who didn't come from Penn State.  I don't think they need the "death penalty", they can rebuild themselves, it's just going to be a long, hard road to get there.

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Re: Is this the end for JoePa?
« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2011, 08:56:40 PM »
Stewart Mandel makes a good point here...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/stewart_mandel/11/11/penn-state-joe-paterno-culture/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a3

This is something that we're ALL guilty of doing with our coaches.  We, as sports fans, cannot keep putting these guys on a pedestal like we have.  It's dangerous to allow these men to have absolute control with no checks and balances, no oversight.  There's a reason why these universities have boards of trustees, to keep the chancellor from doing whatever he wants.  Even the trustees have a state legislature to answer to.  There are programs all around the country where King Football, or King Basketball, has grown too big for its britches.  These men in charge can, and will, be wrong from time to time, they will lead us astray sometimes.  If we care as much about these programs as we say we do, then it's our responsibility to hold them accountable when they make mistakes.

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Re: Is this the end for JoePa?
« Reply #41 on: February 13, 2012, 11:12:10 PM »